I was really frustrated with Golden 464 because I could rarely get a smooth top and I would get sink holes, bubbles, etc. These however are effortless smooth tops every time and the texture, consistency, and overall physical appearance of the wax in candle form is just smooth and stunning. Rich colors, burns nicely. They do sink in a bit towards the wick when dry, so it’s not completely flat, but it is smooth and I am pleased. Glass adhesion is okay, not much different than golden from what I can tell. Overall this wax looks much more like a soy candle should look like than the 464 golden. Never using that again.

I still somewhat of a beginner at this whole thing, but I found this wax very easy to work with. Pouring at 135-140 gets the best results, especially in tins. I never had any frosting when pouring at that temperature.

The cold throw is fairly weak at first, but once it goes past 3-4 days it is VERY strong. I find the hot throw takes much longer. I wait at least a week, maybe two before I consider putting it out for sale.

As will soy wax, the longer you wait, the better it gets. Just let it sit for a week and try it again if it's not very strong.

I have found the recommended pour temps to be way off. I have used Ecosoya (before the reformulation) almost my entire candlemaking career. It is a wonderful wax, but you do need to find the proper temps (the recommendation is completely wrong!). For my environment, pouring at 135 is perfect. I almost never have frosting. The cold throw gets stronger the longer it cures starting at 24 hours. Good hot throw does need at least a week. I love this wax and it is definitely worth the extra cost. If you are having issues with Golden Wax 464, try this wax. This wax is a little harder to work with compared to other brands but it has just to do with finding the perfect temps.

I have just used this wax for the first time. My candle tops are totally smooth, not grainy, no sink holes as with 464 and 415. I heated wax to 185 degrees and poured at 160. As for the vinegar smell, it was very faint and once the wax is melted you cannot smell it at all. I will review cold and hot throw and wicks in three weeks when they have cured, but I am totally thrilled with the smooth tops.

DLM
11/9/18

Like a lot of others, i was super worried after i ordered this wax and then began reading through the reviews here about the performance of this wax and the smell.

The concern has been unfounded, we're getting lovely results with this wax. It has performed well so far with every fragrance we've poured, getting excellent cold and hot throw, and it's probably the easiest, most forgiving wax I've ever poured.

We're sending at between 9-11.5% Most of our fragrances are seeing excellent cold throw as little as 24 hours after pour. I did a wick test with one candle the day after the pour and the hot throw on that particular scent was already pretty good. We tested again at 10 days and both cold and hot throw on every fragrance were fantastic.

The wax pours great and seems to be pretty forgiving. We've tested pours at 170, 160, 150 and 140 and so far have found that we haven't had issues at any of these temps. no frosting, no sweating, no wet spots or adhesion issues. It seems to have a lot of flexibility compared to any other wax I've ever used.

As for the sour smell. The way people have been reviewing this wax, I was expecting to be blown back by an unbearable smell of distilled white vinegar when I opened the box. The odor from the wax is actually incredibly minimal. I had to stick my head in the box to detect it. It does have a mild acidic smell. It isn't even particularly unpleasant. (To me it kind of smells like a donut shop.) the odor is at it's strongest when then wax reaches 185, and on the first melt i was a little concerned at how much of the odor there was. but once the wax is scented and cooled there is no trace of it in the finished candles, either cold or while burning. In short i've found the concern to be overblown, for us at least.

There was some testing and mild reformulating we had to do, but the end result is an easier pour that produces gorgeous candles with excellent throw. We're quite pleased.